ABERDEEN STREET 05/02/2019 I stumbled across this fab site yesterday & have spent some time today reading some of the stories & memories. 
I have just started researching my family tree, having recently sorted though my mom's paperwork. 
I've found out that my paternal grandmother, Alice Prudence Smith was born at 82 Wellington Street in 1893. From what I can gather in the documents I have, the family moved to Suffrage Street in Smethwick (I don't know dates for this) but on her Certificate of Marriage in 1919 her address is listed as 2/130 Aberdeen Street. So the family must have moved back to Winson Green. 
Her mother, my great grandma, was Mary Smith & my great grandad was John James Smith who was a carpenter. 
Alice married my grandad, Thomas Harding & they lived in Handsworth for the rest of their lives. 
My dad & his two brothers lived there too, the eldest, Frank moved South Africa and my dad Thomas & youngest brother Dennis stayed in Handsworth. My brother & I were also brought up in Handsworth. 
If anyone can add anything to my family research, I'd be thrilled. 
I'm so glad I happened upon this site. Val Higton  vhigton@hotmail.com

ABERDEEN STREET 16/11/2018 Just a few memories I thought might interest you. I lived in Aberdeen Street with my parents, George and Ethel Webb at 7/38 about halfway down on the right hand side towards Winson Green Road. From about 1957 till 1969. Our yard was accessed by an archway and wide enough to drive a car through but this was prevented by a green wooden stump that we kids used to leapfrog over. There was about 10 houses in the yard and a couple of air raid shelters, all back to back. It had the usual Brewhouse and communal dustbin area that was called the miskin. Probably Shortened from Miss the Bin as there was more rubbish on the floor than in the bin. We shared a toilet with two other families. Also in the yard was a building where wood was cut and made into gates and fencing, tables etc.Over the road looking to the right was a general stores called Jones's. Mr Jones had ginger hair, wore a light brown coat in the same style as a doctor would wear. Also, I remember that he had the tip of his finger severed, probability from the bacon slicer.He owned a white and tan dog called Cobber who was well known for scrounging old pennies wich he would take back to his master and exchanged for a penny dairy milk strip.To the left of the entry lookin out was a couple of shops, One was a greengrocers called Stringers and a hardware shop the name escapes me but they had an old till and still worked in old money long after decimalisation. Over the Road was a pub, could have been called The Queens, not sure. I do remember nipping over to the outdoor with a white jug and tea towel for my dad's beer.On the corner of Aberdeen Street and Peel Street was a clinic manned by a Dr. Johnson and Dr. Docker. Fond memories.
Kind regards, Dennis Webb denniswebb691@gmail.com   

ABERDEEN STREET 27/09/2017 Living in the shadow of the Green                                  Thank you for creating this site, it's brilliant. We used to live in Aberdeen St when I was a child, I was known as Edward Holmes then, (Eddie now). We moved into 3/46 Aberdeen St next door to Dolly Russell sometime around 1966/67 and I went to Barford Rd school, the only names that I can remember from the school was a girl called Angela Jones who I used to play kiss chase with and a boy called Nick who's family owned the chippy on Dudley road near to Barford road. I was always in Dolly's house and used to run errands for her. I was the eldest child to Sarah Holmes who had three children at that time, Jack and Margaret were my half brother and sister. My mother met an Irish man called Patrick Kavanagh, (known as Pat), and they married at Birmingham Registry office and continued living in 3/46 where my half sister was born. My Mum had a friend who lived in the big yard but unfortunately the name escapes me. I can remember climbing into a lorry outside the Queens Head Pub and the local Bobby dragged me out and clipped my ear and sent me home. I used to help the milkman so some people may remember me from that, he used to take me into the big cafe on Winson Green Rd by the Prison for breakfast. I remember changing my old money for the new currency in 1971 at Jone's shop, so we must have moved out shortly after that to Ladywood, I would have been 9 yrs old. I live in Warwickshire now but I remember my days growing up in Aberdeen St fondly and with pride; Probably my happiest times as a child. I have bought the books about the area and they have brought so many happy memories flooding back. Unfortunately I do not have any photographs but would love one of the back to back houses around 3/46 if anyone has one. If anyone does remember my family or just wants to say hi, they are welcome to get in touch. Eddie Holmes  eh4264@gmail.com  



 ABERDEEN STREET 10/08/2017.                                                                                       Raymond Williams  is featured in the correspondence dated 26/06/03 at the very end of this page.                                                                                                                                                     I knew Raymond Williams, 27 Aberdeen Street,Winston Green very well. We used to play together when we were kids. He came to tea every Sunday to our house  No.137 (directly opposite his house). I also went to Raymond's wedding. I can remember Kenny being born.                 Maud Vyse nee Turton.  maudvyse@aol.com

ABERDEEN STREET. 21/06/2017  MILLINERS SHOP                                                           I'm looking for any pictures/memories of the Milliners shop at 4 Aberdeen St in the 1930s - owned by Edith Payne. Tracing family history for my friend Alice who was her niece.                             Thank you, Jane Loe.   Email Address: janeloe@tiscali.co.uk

ABERDEEN STREET  08/09/2016 (LOOKING FOR A LOST PHOTOGRAPH)                  This photo means so much if I could trace it. It is called "The Four Generations" taken outside 16 Aberdeen Street  between April and September 1949. It was of my great grandmother Eliza Morgan my grandmother Jessie Chappell they were standing and my mother Betty was seated with me on her lap. They all seemed to have summer clothes on.  I did see the photo when I was a child after gran and granddad died the photo was lost and gran could not remember which paper it was in. My great grandmother ran a sweety shop from, I think, number 18 at one time and went to live with her youngest son Arthur Morgan in Solihull not sure when, death cert Warwick 1953.      REGARDS JENNY     johnrussell434@btinternet.com                                                    

ABERDEEN STREET 04/04/2016.                                                                                              Hi, looking for Brenda Crosby who lived with her mum in Aberdeen St. We were friends when I lived at The Cottage of Content in Norman St between 1968 and 1973.    Thanks Moira   m.taylor237@btinternet.com


I would like to start by saying what a fantastic site you have put together, I noticed that there was a comment from Henry Morgan, I bought Henry's book for my mother, it filled in a lot of blanks regarding her family. My mother lived with her Grandparents Mrs Sarah Jane & Eli Hill and her parents at 4 bk 46 Aberdeen Street. Sarah Jane lost two sons during the 1st World War namely William and Frederick. The world is a small place as I was researching the family history I came by Henry's book by accident and it tells us that his father Harry was in fact Frederick's best friend. I could go into more details if you need it.
With kind regards
Sarah Maher   sarahmaher2003@yahoo.co.uk


This is the caravan that my dad built in Aberdeen Street the old gent standing by the caravan was my dads father, he lived in Heath Street. the other picture is my dad, Norman Cyril Wilson standing by the caravan just after he had finished building it the last picture was taken in the Qeens Head pub in Aberdeen Street, from left to right
Doris Haddon my aunt , Lilly Hicken, another aunt, my mom Edna Wilson
and my Nan Lizy Cotteril, who died at the age of 102 , they were all from Aberdeen St.
Malcolm Wilson     malwils@tiscali.co.uk 


My friend down Cornwall sent me this picture, of his brother & sister taken in is garden, he was  one of the lucky ones we only had a back yard. the house was just up the road from me, looking at the picture the gap between the houses was a lock up yard, and that is where my dad built a caravan from scatch. I remember the chasis being delivered, and he got me up there helping to paint it, I used to stand there for hours and hours holding side frames and panels, it seem to take years but when he managed to finish the roof, and we could work inside things got a lot better, my dad was a good carpenter in his spare time so he made all the fixtures, fittings beds ect. When he eventually fished it, it was painted cream & green, I remember a lot of the people close by watching as it was towed away down to Evesham by the river where we would spend week ends and holidays fishing. I will try and get a picture of the caravan from my sister.
Malcolm Wilson     malwils@tiscali.co.uk

 Ray and sister Maureen in their garden at No 27 Aberdeen Street


I managed to find this old picture, I think we were about seven or eight at the time, there were cowboys around the green even in them days.
The picture shows from left to right Kenny Williams one of my best mates who now lives in Loe Cornwall, Johnny Haddon my cousin, Robert Chislin another old mate and myself Malcolm Wilson, the picture was taken out side number 32 Aberdeen Street, I  will try and find more pictures.
Malcolm Wilson     malwils@tiscali.co.uk


I lived in Aberdeen Street for about 17 years, my name is Malcolm Wilson, I lived at number 151 which was down the bottom end towards Winson Green, we were the last house on the left .my uncle and aunt lived next door there name was Lilly & Butch Hickin, another uncle lived up the back yard their name was May and George Brawn, further up the road by the gardens, last gully before the bomb building was another uncle and aunt there name was Doris and George Haddon and last of all was my Nan and Grandad Lizey and Harry Cotteral they lived at 1 back of 35 the entry was facing Jones shop, I will never forget my time down the Green, some of the best memories were down there, I live in Staffordshire now I have been there since 1965 I am happily married with two sons and a daughter, we also have 7 grand children.
If anyone knows the whereabouts of Edward Green better known as Teddy it would be great if you could post it on the site, he also lived down the same yard as my Nan & Grandad.
 Malcolm Wilson     malwils@tiscali.co.uk


I have looked at your website, great, thanks for all of your work. I have also bought your book, Winson Green to Brookfields, prompted by an article in the Sunday Times about Black Patch Park & Charlie Chaplain. Again, excellent book, thanks.
On your website Aberdeen Street is featured. The first photo is of terraced houses with a Ford Cortina estate car & a Hillman Hunter estate car parked outside. On the arched entry gateway is a sign.......... CAR-NEEDS & ACCESSORIES, which was sign written by me as a young student. I was brought up in James Turner Street, Winson Green & was lucky enough to attend Moseley Secondary School of Art & then attend Birmingham College of Arts & Crafts. I was taught signwriting at school & used to earn pocket money by hand painting signs for small firms or shops. Idoubt if the skill still exists as everything seems now to be printed onto self adhesive labels. I can't remember the man's name who ran that business, but he manufactured open top car hoods & sidescreens etc. in his small workshop through these gates.
I hope that this will be of some interest to you,
Best wishes    Ralph Carpenter    ralphcarpenter@telco4u.net


81 years ago, I was born to a Brummy couple - Harry and Lizzie Morgan in Aberdeen Street. They were part of large families also in that area, Harry with five brothers (Jack-Frank-Walter-Joseph-and Frederick and three sisters Elizabeth - Polly - Amelia).Lizzie (Elizabeth) was a Rogers with two sisters - Louisa - and Ellen (Nell). and brothers William - James - Harry - John - and Jack.Lizzie and Harry had two children - Arthur and Elizabeth (Betty) (Arthur was me, and my dear sister was Betty)
When dad came out of the army (1918 war) they rented a house in Aberdeen street, but when Betty was born they needed more space. He then moved in with his father to "Little" Peel Street and at that time the rest of both families were in either Aberdeen St. or "Big" Peel Street. I was born in "Little" Peel St. in Dec. 1929. Dad was a Metal Spinner, with "Swan Brand" (Bulpits). Having had enough of that, he followed his spare time occupation of Barman at the Queens Head, in Aberdeen Street, (Mr and Mrs Billingsly) and we left the Green to take over a pub named the "Woodbine Stores" in Washington Street ( near 5 ways). This was only for 6 months, as this quaint little place was to be sold by the brewery, Mitchell's and Butlers. What happened to it I never knew, but with that experience, it remains in my memory forever! It was the strangest, most extraordinary, endearing little pub I have ever had the delight of living in. The war was now on and many things happened.
By this time we had notice that alterations to the next pub had been fully completed and at the instructed time we packed up once more, to leave and occupy The Wellington Inn, Small Heath. Harry was now a Manager. On the corner of Muntz St. and Dawson St. we spent the whole time of the war. me now back at a school and Betty just old enough for a job at the "Court Steam Laundry". She started as filing clerk and worked through to Insurance and tax department. There were many things going on and I hope to include them in the next book that I am now working on.. I have in fact published one that was built up from notes in books left by my father. This is about his duties and activities in France. I named it "Our Harry's War" and it sells through a number of sources,(though it is a very restricted market as publishers cannot make enough profit on WW1 to justify the expenditure).Henry Morgan  morganhenry@virginmedia.com


I have just discovered your wonderful site, what a gem! It not only brought back memories but I have discovered a photo of the Bird in Hand Pub in Aberdeen St which I believe my great grandfather, (Ernest) Arthur Mason, was the Landlord of way back in the early 1900's. I hadn't been able to find any info on this pub before so this was special. I have made contact with two people via email and eagerley await their replies which hopefully will contain some further information for my family tree research. I have read a message from Beryl Raine (nee Wilcox) and would love to contact her but there was no email address - any idea how I can get hold of her?
The family names I am researching are Mason and Hill. My grandparents lived at 93 Aberdeen Street and I well remember back in the early 1950's spending many happy days there, especially the baths in front of the fire because they didn't have a bathroom! I was quite horrified when they had one put in their back bedroom as this meant no more baths in front of the fire. I believe it was the first bathroom in the street and many of the neighbours came round to admire it! My late mother, Edna Rachel Hill, lived in Aberdeen Street for many years.
If there is anyone out there who has any information I would love to hear from you.
Shirley Lloyd, Perth, Western Australia.  sdlloyd@bigpond.com


My name is George Layton I lived at 7/31 Aberdeen Street (next to the bomb site) from 1941 till 1960 in the yard lived  the Turners they lived at number 2/31, Brian Turner was my best man, I would love to hear from him and anyone who lived there around that time. I have many fond memories of my time there and look forward to hearing from anyone who came from our yard or anyone who knew me.
 Love the web site thanks for it.   Kind Regards George Layton  gjbrayford@hotmail.com

 7/31ABERDEEN St. 05/07/1972 just before demolition

Photos of my fathers family in Aberdeen Street, Winson Green. The photographs were taken upto WW2.
Regards  Keith Acton (son of Alfred Acton: Aberdeen Street) (actonfamily@talktalk.net)?? keithacton52@gmail.com

Photograph taken of my grandfather Herman W. Read and my mother, Marion (Twycross) Read outside his house 129 Aberdeen Street during the celebrations of King George V's Silver Jubilee in 1935. In the background is a Mitchell' s and Butler's pub called the "Bird in Hand", the painted sign is not very clear on this photograph, but I can assure any reader that may be interested in "Back Street Pubs" that it is readable on the original when enlarged.
I would be more than interested if any reader knows the history of this establishment. Malcolm Read Email: mk.read@btinternet.com

Malcolm lived at 1/102 Aberdeen Street and went to Barford Road School

Herman W. Read and my mother, Marion (Twycross)

Herman W. Read and my mother, Marion (Twycross)

Photograph of Aberdeen Street looking towards Peel Street on the left, with the Childrens Welfare surgery on the corner from Malcolm Read. 

Aberdeen Street looking towards Peel Street

At the "Tower Ballroom" Edgbaston reservoir 1955-60
From left to right: John ( Froggy) Freer, John Howes, John Morton, Malcolm Read (myself), David Longstaff and John Robinson.

Back row kneeling: first one see below, Tony Parkes (face part hidden) the lad standing is not identified see below.

What is known, the first lad kneeling was a painter and decorator, who lived on the opposite side of the road to the "Malt Shovel" pub in Tudor Street, I think his christian name was Allan. The lad standing worked with David Longstaff in the Jewelery Quarter.
Photograph supplied by Malcolm Read. Email: mk.read@btinternet.com


Photos of my mom and dad, Fred and Doris Hitchen my nan and my aunt and us kids.

MOM and DAD                                                                                                                 JONNIE

FREDDIE                                         MAUREEN AGE 3                                   JACKIE & PAT

MAUREEN in the middle age 14, dressed up to go to the Lacano with PAT my brother JOHNS girlfriend and PADDY taken in Aberdeen Street 1967


Mr Dyer he lived at136 Aberdeen Street

Mom and dad, Fred and Doris Hitchen, used to live at 132 Aberdeen Street when I was growing up in the sixties. My nan Alice Temby  also lived in Aberdeen Street at no.127. My aunt Jean Brookes  lived at no 1 Lansdown Street photographed on her wedding day to Steve Gracie in the sixties.  If anyone does remember us and wants to get in touch please do 

ABERDEEN STREET 19/01/05    We moved to Aberdeen St when I was about fourteen and lived at No26 a couple of doors away from Johnny Dunkley, I had a mate called Billy Wylman from round the corner in Peel St, we all used to knock about in the Route 66 Cafe across the road from the Smiths Arms, great days sadly missed.
Chris price  Email: ampegboy@live.co.uk.

I was Maureen Hitchen before I got married, does anyone remember me from Aberdeen St, we used to live two doors away from Jones shop. I went to Barford Rd School, City Rd, Summerfield, Handsworth New Rd, I left the street in 1969.
I remember Trevor Davis he lived in the Acorn Pub, Steven Benson.bottom of Aberdeen St, Susan Grincell, Pat Poole, lots more. it was the best years of my life living in Aberdeen Street
Thank You .Maureen Perks  

I lived at 132,Aberdeen St  for 11 years my Nan lived a couple of doors away at 127 Aberdeen St. my mother's name was Doris Hitchen and father's name was Fred Hitchen. Dad had a bad lip. always in the pubs, my aunt lived at No 1 Landsdown St. I had then 2 brothers John and Freddie. myself Maureen Hitchen and Jackie. I knew all the streets as I used to hang around them in the sixties I used to go to the same school as Gary Smith. At this moment I can not find any photo's, I can remember Jones shop one door away from us. by the big opening. we used to have lots of bon-fire's.Them were the days.
Maureen Perks  

My Sister has Put Her Story In About Aberdeen Street,132.
Well As She Said Our Aunt Lived At 1 Lansdowne Street, And Our Nan Alice Tenby Lived At 127 Aberdeen Street,our father was a coal man, he liked to drink his name was fred hitchen, (freddie to his friends) Our Mom Doris Worked At Bulpits. Our Dad Suffered From Polio He Had A Limp. Our Father Kept Getting Into Trouble Off Our Mom Cause Of The State He Came Home In There Were Arguement.We All Ducked.
Dad Had A New Lad Work With Him One Day He Would Turn Up In Pure White T Shirts, (To Deliver Coal) He Became Very Famous His Name Was Pat Roach.
Because Of My Moms Temper He Nicked Named Her The Blonde Bombshell. We Didn't Have A Lot of Anything But I Always remember thing with fondest memories And always Will

Aberdeen Street. I have already made a comment in Bryant Street with regards to my mom, dad and sister. But my grandmother lived in 24 Aberdeen Street with two of her daughters. Her name was Florence Green Her daughters were Ena and Barbara. She also had 3 sons and 2 other daughters Florrie and Lily (my mom). Her sons names wee Geoff, Eric and Frank. Where they lived the gardens were in the front of the houses,and included a bomb shelter where Ena kept her gardening tools. I was nearly born in this shelter after and air raid. The toilets were down the back. and were shared with another family and you had to take the key with you it was a long trek in the winter. I now live in Australia and believe that these houses no longer exist. I remember a bomb site to the right of the houses as you faced them and this was our playground. My uncle Geoff, aunt Ruth, cousins Brian and Collin also lived in the same block.
Frances Sheen Nee Mason  Email: Tfsheen@aol.com

My family lived in Aberdeen Street for over fifty years.
My Grandparents used to keep the old Queens Head Pub which was opposite Stringers fruit and vegetable shop. The old pub was demolished in 1936 and the new Queens Head was built in 1937.
What wonderful times we had as children we could play out in the street and the only danger was the horse and cart and neighbors who shouted at us to play down our own end.
We would go on charanbanc trips and have song sheets to sing all the way to the seaside and sleep on the way back. I remember Mr.Jenns who kept the grocery shop and Mrs.Hill who lived next to my mother and father, and Mr&Mrs.Shorthouse who also kept a Grocery & sweetshop and their daughters Betty and June.
Very happy days.  from Beryl Raine (Wilcox)


 So glad we found this site. Both my parents are from Winson Green dad (Raymond Williams) was born in Aberdeen St, and mom (JuneWood) was born in Bellefield Rd. If anyone remembers them please get in touch.
 Mom would love to hear from anyone with new's of Dorothy Palmer who's married name is Kane..
MANDY SMITH.                                                                                                                 02/08/2017 {PLEASE NOTE help required}  I knew Raymond Williams he lived opposite me, his father worked for the railways and used to drive the tree wheeler lorries, unfortunately there is no e/mail address to make contact, Mandy please get in touch with me or anyone who knew Raymond.
               Regards, Harry Turton.  email:   harryturton1@gmail.com