ALLENS ROAD

 LIME GROVE, OFF ALLENS ROAD, WINSON GREEN    14/05/2016

 My mom Dorothy Walker lived at 3  Lime Grove, Winson Green. There were about 7 or 8 houses in Lime Grove if I remember correctly, they were owned by the Railways and it was Grandad, Joshua Walker who worked on the Railways. Gran Clarice Walker worked as a cook at C.W Cheney & Sons. Mom's brother Reginald Walker live with them too.
My memories of the house are the remains of the air raid shelter in the front garden and stories of the bombing raids, the front room, never used with old wind up record player. The back room used for everything. Small kitchen and the outside whitewashed toilet. No back garden as such, it led onto a passage at the back along the top of the railways embankment. The grassy embankment would often catch fire in the summer due to embers from the steam trains. There were loose railings and we would get through to catch grasshoppers. The family in the first house seemed to have made an allotment of one part of the embankment at the top of the cul de sac.
When trains came through at speed I can remember the sash windows rattling and the house trembling. Remember seeing a double ended single carriage train zooming through, it had centre sliding doors very much like an underground train, always called it the Dudley Dasher. Think it did runs from Birmingham to Dudley for visitors to the Zoo.
At the end of the grove, corner with Allens Road, I remember Parkers Shop. I would get sweets and their homemade ice lollies made in plastic pots. Opposite the grove was a passageway with an off licence to the right of it. A passageway led from opposite Lime Grove to the yard up the big steps, it came out opposite the Soho and Winson Green Railway Station. Fond memories of Nellie who manned the station, she would let me have a go with the oil lanterns, changing them from red to green with a swivel of the handle. She always had a fire in the ticket office and would let us in to keep warm whilst waiting for the late night trains.
Spent many hours with grandad at the TheTalbot pub playing bowls. Grandad used to cut the green and we would flip the worm casts off with a giant tapering bamboo stick.
Mom worked for Setton and Durwoods opposite Benson Road School, my aunt Olive Walker worked at Benson Road School.
Recent drive around the area found that Lime Grove, Allens Road, The Talbot all gone.

I have found a 1950's aerial photo of the area, showing Lime Grove etc will upload it. 

             LIME GROVE, ALLEN ROAD

 Dennis Morrish     dennis@maudens.demon.co.uk

ALLENS ROAD  (Avon Place) 06/05/08
Avon Place was a cul-de-sac, situated off Allens Road, only had four houses, occupied during the war by the Jakemans, Sheppard, and Haywoods. On the corner was Vickers Grocery shop (later Parkers). At the far end, near the railway was the local A.R.P 'Command Post', which was taboo to us kids!! inside was a bench, shelf or table, a telephone, buckets of sand and stirrup pumps, to be used with the buckets of water which hung on brackets between the bay windows in Allens Rd. A row of houses, LIME GROVE, which I think belonged to Great Western Railway, ran alongside the embankment and the families that lived there were mainly employed by the railway....Davies, Potter, Williams, Bache, Bates etc. These houses had a reasonable front garden, where most grew vegetables, and also a backyard that overlooked the main Birmingham to Wolverhampton line.(now the metro). An excellent place to view the trains and as kids each year we would get our new 'reference book' from the Scout shop in Dale End with all GWR train names and numbers in...King , Manor, Duke Classes Tankers and even 'Dudley Dashers', we would carefully underline each train 'spotted'. These were our treasured possessions. Opposite Lime Grove was a narrow passage that led into the 'Big Yard' and from there up the steps onto Benson Rd. Yes, Avon Place was an ideal place to play cricket, football, learn to cycle and at the end of the war to hold our parties and Street Bonfires.
Derek Weston      derek@dweston1.wanadoo.co.uk

Photos taken in 1948 in Avon Place , Brian Jeffries and Derek Weston, in the background, Nos.22 & 24 Allens Rd. where Pat and Maureen Hodgson and their grandfather Alfred Bird lived.

04/05/2011
This photo is of the Birmingham City Transport Cricket Team 1929
(Hockley Bus Depot ..Whitmore St.)
Bill HAYWOOD of Avon Place, Allens Rd. is in the front row. Rt.
Derek Weston derek@dweston1.wanadoo.co.uk

                                          Birmingham City Transport Cricket Team 1929


ALLENS ROAD 25/12/07
My Grandfather Albert Ernest Bird lived in Allens Road most of his life and my Auntie lived next door for most of her life. I remember as a child travelling on the train from Snow Hill to Soho & Winson Green train station, 3 stops, with my Mom and Dad to visit them. In more resent years I had a partner whose parents lived in the same area so we used to visit various 'Clubs' at Christmas etc.
I would love to know more about him and where he lived.
Therese Hobson  EMAIL: hobboterry@hotmail.com
 

ALLENS ROAD 17/05/07
I was born in Allens Rd. in 1937, I remember the war years, in particular Big Nellie Riley, who manned the Soho & Winson Green Railway Stn. on her own. She was the one everyone called upon to do the 'mans jobs', like moving furniture or replacing blown out windows etc. My aunt (Haywoods) lived in Avon Place, next to the railway line. They had a 'Morrison' shelter in the front room, and my mother and I would run down the back entry (Lime Grove) when the 'siren' went. I remember 'Garfitts' the little corner newsagents, Yeomans the butchers, Clarks or Jeffries the greengrocers, where we queued for our first banana. In 1945, we had a party at the methodist hall, Benson Road. See Photo. In the photo, are most of the 'kids' from the Benson Rd area....The Corbets, Lees, Tompkins, Winkles,Cooper, Cox, Gaffney, Jeffries, Adams, Spillers, Whittle, Ball, Steeles, Perfect, Law, and many I can't recall the names of. My Gran (Williams) also lived in Benson Rd. opposite Harding St. I remember Greasleys the sweet shop and a shop we referred to as 'up the steps'. When I got married my Best Man was Joe Clark, lived at the old cafe, next to railway bridge. During the war, my mother worked at Setten & Durwards, making cartridge cases, later at Cheneys in Factory Rd.
I am now retired, after serving in the Fire Service for 30 yrs. covering the Handsworth, Aston, and other Birmingham areas.
 Best Wishes to all old Winson Greeners.
Derek Weston, E-mail : derek@dweston1.wanadoo.co.uk

ALLENS ROAD ...The 'old' end, 06/06/07
Now completely disappeared, had 'Fords' the bakers on the corner with Bacchus Rd.(before they moved to Benson Rd. near Park Rd.). As I lived opposite the bakery, as a child I would wake up to the smell of newly baked bread, and when purchasing a loaf, we always selected the 'burnt' one and would have picked off most of the crust before getting it home!.
Halfway down the road (opposite Avon Place) was Thorntons the 'outdoor' and from 6 oclock onwards, people would be seen entering and emerging with large jugs covered with a 'teatowel', and a bottle of stout for the 'missus'! to settle in for the night before the siren went..........Avon Place (a small cul-de-sac) had the A.R.P. wardens hut at the far end, but was where you could play cricket and football and still keep a look-out for the local bobby! It was a safe place because one could 'escape' either up Lime Grove or through the gully into the 'Big Yard' and out into Benson Road. The waste paper box or the 'pig bin' were convenient goal posts or wickets.
ALLENS ROAD (the 'new' end) was a cul-de-sac with the houses at the end known as 'The Triangle' and if you were careful you could sneak down the 'entry' to the back of the houses. It was an ideal place to 'catch train numbers' as GWR and LMS both converged at this point.
At the end of the war, a large bonfire was 'lit' in 'Old Allens' in the middle of the road to celebrate, it was so fierce that all the paintwork was burned or blistered on the doors and windows of adjacent houses, but no-one seemed to care. Many names spring to mind from that era...Desmond Woolridge, Norman Bickley,Brian & Barry Jeffries, Joan Pitt, Sheila Corcoran, Pat Hodson, Silvia Beddall and many more - a time when both sexes seemed to intergrate at play more than they do now. Many memories from the area during the 40s and 50s. Sadly the old roads gone now, they call it progress.
 Derek Weston, E-mail : derek@dweston1.wanadoo.co.uk

 

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