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              LODGE ROAD TOWARDS HOCKEY WITH THE WINSON GREEN TAVERN oka THE DON ON THE LEFT

              LODGE ROAD TOWARDS HOCKEY WITH THE WINSON GREEN TAVERN oka THE DON ON THE LEFT

LODGE ROAD 12/01/2017 Winson Green Tavern/Don                                                            First let me say love your blogs about Winson Green, I worked in the Winson Green Tavern in the 1970's it was commonly know as the Don. I loved Winson Green and the people. We had a dog and when we moved to the Duke of Edinburgh on Dudley Road we brought the dog with us but he refused to move and went back to the Don and although the dog was returned to us several times he would keep returning to the Don. Eventually the new landlord adopted him. Regards Patsy Byrne patsybyrne1952@hotmail.com

LODGE ROAD 20/09/2012
In the early 1950 my mother Hilda Goodacre operated a small sweet shop at 105 Lodge road for about 10 years.
I was about 8years old and for the first 3 years boarded at the Blue Coat school and only came home for holidays. I later finished my education at Harboune Hill school as a day student travelling every day on the number 11 bus.
Unfortunately I did not have many friend in Lodge Road only Jean Unsworth from Don Street we used to cycle around the midlands on a Sunday some times, later I beleave she became a police lady. Our next door neighbour's James Hollaway and June Savoy, Mr and Mrs Brassington and daughter Pru owned the fruit and veg shop .
After leaving school started work in a small garage in Station road Harboune, with limited opportunities going applied and was excepted as a assisted immigrant and have lived in NZ since. I would be most interested to hear from any one on this subject. Regards Richard Goodacre  dickgoodacre@yahoo.co.nz

LODGE ROAD 16/11/011
I wish to put into print my Family History for future Generations to read about the Area that we all Lived In. Having been changed. IN 1870 the begining of the recolection of families becoming parts of the area called Birminham.My grandfather born of Country Farming Stock.decided to move to the new Future of areas becoming Cities. Arriving in 1890 to thhe the City of Birmingham and enlisting in the Police--Fire service and stationed in the Jewellery Quarter,he was responiable for the safety of Business and local residents. He married and three Sons of this family were born..the second son my father was born in Tenby Street Jewellry Quarter 1896. In the intervening years,World !. took place 1914--1918. and at the end of this Conflict my father married and move to a new address in lodge road All Saints-Winson Green were my Brother was born in 1920. All Saints Winson Green has a big part of History in my family Memorabilla with a Date with a date not to be fogotten by the Nations Population conectining my eldest Brother being Born on the 11th November 1920. in Lodge road All Saints -Winson Green. the grandson of the local Policeman.and with all the family being attached to the local area Jewellery Trade. Helping to build Birmingham to a Industriious City.for the nation to appreciate. Yourself and - Maureen Contribiting with your web site Facilities.
Best Regards
Colin Mills  E-mail cmills9@blueyonder.co.uk

LODGE ROAD 26/01/10
Just looked at the site again and realised another 7 years have passed since I put a little piece about myself working at Pearks on the Flat.
Does anyone else remember the coal barges off Lodge Road, we would go up on a Saturday morning, shovel the coal into steel wheeled barrows and wait for customers. They would pay 3d deposit on the barrow, we would wheel it to their home, shove it down the cellar and take the barrow back and keep the 3d for ourselves,then as we got older ( at least 11) to Scribans where we would wait outside for the bread-man, to see if they needed help. My best mate Kenneth Goodman from Whitmore Street, his sister Carol, David Evans moved from Park Road, to Icknield Street ( had a sister Maureen)
Now living in South West France ( didn't know anywhere outside 'Ockley once
Anyone remembers, photos etc please email brianwmoore@aol.com
Kind Regards  Brian Moore brianwmoore@aol.co.uk

LODGE ROAD / DON STREET 12/01/10

     LODGE ROAD WITH DON STREET ON THE LEFT.

I was looking at the photo of the Don Hotel. Could it have originally been the Winson Green Tavern?(shown here on the corner of Don Street before demolition) (KELLY'S Directory 1960 names the pub on the corner of Lodge Road and Don Street as the "Winson Green Tavern" Ted Rudge 28/02/07)                                                                                                                                                                  My grandmother, Gladys Gorman, was born in Birmingham in 1895. Her father, Albert Gorman, became the publican of the Winson Green Tavern in 1902. It was a two storey building on the corner of Lodge Rd and Don Street opposite the Birmingham Borough Lunatic Asylum. It was enclosed by a brick wall with broken glass cemented into the top of it. This was to prevent burglars coming into the small yard which consisted of a red brick washhouse and a tiny garden, the first one that the family had ever had. The family slept on the first floor next to a large clubroom which was used for meetings and parties. Don Street was used as a narrow short cut to Soho Station and consisted of a row of tiny three storey terrace houses which were rented to tenants for about three shillings and sixpence per week. The ground floor of these residences was a living room for the family. There was usually shining brass around the fireplace and three red stone steps to one side where the bath tub was placed. There was a bedroom on the first floor and another on the second but no separate bathroom or kitchen in the house. Outside, in the cobblestone or flagstone backyard was a communal row of toilets.
Rachel Fowkes became the washer woman at the Winson Green Tavern after her husband, William, died in 1905. She lived in one of the terrace houses in Don Street with her 5 children, Lily, Florry, Sophia, Alice and Alfred. As Alice and Alfie were still at school, Albert Gorman (my gt grandfather) gave them pocketmoney. Every Saturday morning the two children would arrive at the Tavern for their penny. Another woman who worked at the Tavern was a Mrs Smith sho had been born into an upper middle-class family but had eloped with her father’s coachman. They also lived in one of the small terrace houses but when her husband got drunk he would beat her and she often arrived at the tavern with her arms and face covered in bruises. She spoke beautifully and her house was tastefully furnished with a well laid table. However, she was sometimes frightened of her husband’s homecoming and on one occasion she asked for police protection.
Three sisters, Polly, Emily and Lizzy worked at the Tavern as maids. Emily was about 22 years and wore a blackbearded cape which made her look much older. Lizzy, the youngest sister, was kind and fun-loving and would take Albert’s three youngest children, Gladys, Winnie and Bert Gorman, to the Winson Green park of a summer evening to fly kites and play games. Occasionally, on a Saturday evening, she would take them to the park to see the Perriots, but, as the entrance fee was a penny or twopence, they usually watched them from outside the fence.
In 1904, while they were living in Lodge Road, the lines were laid for the first overhead electric cable tramcars.
The Gorman family immigrated to Australia in 1911.
Many thanks to Mary Henry  mhhen@bigpond.net.au  (Victoria 3421 Australia) for this family and Winson Green History

LODGE ROAD 25/11/08   THE TAYLOR FAMILY                                                                                                                             My name is Eric Taylor and 371 Lodge Road is where I use to live with my mom and dad Harry and Clara Taylor. A large rambling house that had once belonged to a doctor. If it were built to-day it would cost half a million quid. It had a large spiral staircase leading off a long hall which led to the three bedrooms plus a large old attic. At the rear of the house were more rooms where the hired help would have lived. Inside downstairs was a largish kitchen with a copper boiler with a small fireplace beneath it. I remember that quite well as most Monday's would be washing day. My Mom would let me have a day off from school so I could keep the fire beneath the copper going to boil the water then afterwards I would help out with the Maiding tub and then later would be turning the handle of the great old clanking iron wringer or mangle as we called it. Leading from the inside kitchen were more living quarters. A small living room which had its own staircase to three bedrooms Adjoining the living room was another long pantry type room which still had its original nameplate on the door which said "Surgery" Then followed two more large living rooms. The outside consisted of a large long garden. There was an outside toilet, a coal shed and a place to keep the dustbins or "Miskins" as we called them. I came to live here just after the war ended 1945/6 and believe me from what we had come from, this house was a palace. Whenever there was an election the Conservative Party would always rent our front room for its headquarters for the duration.
Together with my sister Doreen we attended All Saints Junior School under the vigilant eye of Miss Cole. Other teachers names I can remember were Miss Pierce, Miss Airey and a Mr. Taylor (His speciality was to give you a sharp smack across the face for your sins)
Lodge Road was a grand place to live way back in them times. There were four public houses within a hundred yards. "The Crown & Cushion" "The Hydraulic" "The All Saints Tavern" "The Abbey Vaults" On the corner was a Post Office. Across the road from the Post Office was a Bakelite manufacturer named "Harris's" I actually worked there for eighteen months moulding Bakelite iron handles and Castor wheels. The owner was a strict German named Carl Harris.
Finally you came to "The Flat" and what a place that was.(The Oxford Street of Birmingham) Nearly every shop you could wish for and two pubs "The Brown Lion" "The Bull's Head" which was run in my times by The Gaffer Harry Westwood. But just before we join "The Flat" I must mention just round the corner in Park Road "George Bartons the Pawnshop" I remember when I was in the RAF I'd hitch hike home from Aylesbury at the week-end and first thing I'd do was to pawn my watch for thirty bob. This gave me enough money for me and my girlfriend Sheila to have a good time while I was back in Brum. My mom would redeem it for me during the week, hand it back to me when I came home and then I'd pop it again and the cycle would begin again.
Now back to "The Flat" Yarnolds on the corner, The Sport & Play cycle shop where I bought my bicycle for five bob down and half a crown a week until it was paid for. A small chemist's (Franks or Izons comes to mind) and Chadwicks "The Bazaar" that name always fascinated me I half expected to be served by Aladdin. It sold everything imaginable, gas mantles, candles, soap, little silver kettle repair outfits on a card, bachelor buttons, blues for your washing or whitewashing, yes you name it they had it. Next up "Sutcliffes" the record shop, I practically lived there. When I got married Peter Sutcliffe the owner let me pick any album of my choice as a wedding gift. I went for Bill Haley & his Comets Stage Show. Further down were Butchers, Bakers (I've mentioned the candlestick makers)
and Spencers the greengrocers directly opposite his great shop was Harry Griffiths another shop exactly the same as Spencers. As a kid I imagined that whenever the two rivals met they'd have a great punch up. Then we had a Woolworths, Smiths the cake shop, The Pentacostal Church ran by two mesmeric sisters and on the corner another cycle shop "Centric". Opposite side of the road on the corner of Heaton Street was Boots the chemist's followed by Twists the grocers, Pope's the tailors, Playfairs the shoe shop, Freeman, Hardy & Willis the shoe shop and on the corner a type of outdoor called the Hole in the Wall (A great place at Christmas for your "Wine from the Wood" You could take your own bottles and they would fill them up with either sherry or port)
Most of my early childhood was spent in Lodge Road. On Guy Fawkes night we had bonfires in the middle of the road. It was as simple as that. Someone would set fire to an old armchair and the rest of the road would keep it going to well after closing time with their unwanted furniture. Nothing politically correct in them days. One memory I have is of sitting on the All Saints Taverns steps listening on the radio to Bruce Woodcock fight Joe Baksi for what I think was the Heavyweight title. Sad to say Bruce lost but I think he broke poor old Joe's jaw.
I met the girl who I married (Sheila Grady) She was my sisters best friend and lived in Abbey street. My first four jobs, after leaving Handsworth Road School, were Blackwells the builders (Icknield Street) Walsh & Walsh the Glass manufacturers (I was a trainee glass cutter) Rowley's on the Hollyhead Road near The Regal Cinema and C.W.Cheney's in Factory Road. I left Cheney's to volunteer for the RAF. After serving for five years I came back to Lodge Road and got a job at Rabones the tape manufacturer situated near Hockley Brook and the Tram/Bus Depot. Then I left and worked at Harris's Bakelite moulding firm then moved onto GKN in Heath Street Winson Green. Got married on December 22nd at All Saints Church. Finally after near enough twenty years I moved up to 134 Winson Green Road.
I have since then had many many more moves and jobs but now live happily with my wife in Worcester. Still a Brummie at heart and always will be.ERIC TAYLOR  erica.taylor@btinternet.com

LODGE ROAD 04/07/08
I was just looking at your site and was fascinated to see that people still comment about the old Winson Green I lived on Lodge Road until I was about 11 which is 36 yrs ago now but it was such a good and safe area to live in at the time my parents Pat and Tom both worked at the "Golden Eagle" pub at the top of Lodge Road and also the Devonshire arms I haven't been down that area for a long time but don't think I want to see how its changed . my dad also worked at All Saints Hospital in the kitchens .
Thank you for letting me just remember the good times
Anne    sarahfoxall285@btinternet.com

LODGE ROAD  20/02/08
Could help me find any old friends of my grandmother and grandfather they lived at 251 Lodge Road  their names are Mildred and Howard Lees. Anyone who knows that surname or Beryl and Jim Sheldon or any of the Lees's or Cogswells please get in touch. My grandmother used to do the provident. Many thanks replies to :-hayleycogswell5@hotmail.com

LODGE ROAD 08/02/08
My name is Joanne Calder, I was born in the front bedroom of 126 Lodge Road in 1962; we left in 1970 when the houses were condemned. I have a sister Maxine and a brother Steven. My father is George Calder and he was brought up in the area too. His parents were Rose and Alexander Calder, he had a sister called Edie and they lived in the house next door. My mother also came from the area, she had a big family of 7 girls and 1 boy, her name was Marina Turner. Her mother was Amie Turner, sisters names were Ireen, Muriel, Betty, Georgina, Val and Yvonne. The 1 boy was called Arthur but he died as a boy, he was run over by a truck. It is my dads 80th birthday in July and I would love to hear from anyone who remembers any of my family members.
Joanne Greenhut nee Calder Email: jo.greenhut@pacificcoastgreetings.com

LODGE ROAD 10/12/07
Some photos of Kent Terrace (back of 43) Lodge Road where I was born and lived until 1968.
In the same terrace lived my Uncle Gordon and Aunty Pat and My Uncle George (pictured on the step of the first house) and Aunty Win. It might even be me sitting on the wall with my cap on!
It was between Scribbans and 'the flat'. I've got lots of lovely memories and I am going to record them for your site (carrying on the tradition of my dear old late mom, Pollie).
Regards  Tony Chew
see Foundry Road 25/01/05 and Stories page 31/12/08 for the contribution Tony and his mom Pollie have added to this web site.

Lodge Road between Scribbans and 'the flat'        Photo courtesy of Tony Chew

LODGE ROAD18/05/07                                                                                                                                                                   BARBERS SHOP

                                                                      A. BURTON (BERTS) GENTS HAIRDRESSING SALON

                                                                                                                                                                                                                 On the corner of Don St,& Lodge Road, this was a front room of a house, this was let to help pay the Rent aprox.9/7d a week, this was converted,to a barbers shop for Mr.Sunny Walters who was their untill the 1939-45.war.he enlisted in R.A.F. In the interving years, another man named Billy Brannan ployed his talents of short back and sides no nonsence hair styles.he move his talents to the Bacchus Road in between Shuffelbottoms Greengrocers Fruit&Veg shop,and the washing baths and now we come to the period beging in 1947.well documented Mr."Bert"Burton the barber. as in many comments on this Web-Site,have stories to tell,I myself have waited late on the night to have my hair cut, but while waiting bert would ask you to sweep the floor and one occasion he gave me a Clay Pipe,and I gave it to my grandad who never used it,but diplayed it on mantel shelf in their front room for years. In proceding years my hair was always was a problem,and I asked if he would fix it, he said you have a double crown and that I would be bald at 25.I asked could he stop it,he pointed to his own head, Bald as Badger, great man of many years. Could remember him saying on a Friday anything for the weekend sir.

The Second Barber on the corner Foundry road next to Dolmans Garage named Tommy Smith, this man was disabled with one leg shorter than the other, he was fitted with a built up shoe, this caused him to limp very badly,and I probably was more aware than other people because he lived in Talbot Street close to my
Grandparents, he also carried out house vists, from personal experience, my father always called for him, or his brother George to our house, my dad was self-conscious because he was bald, they trimed his hair in our front room. When Tommy retired, his brother George carried on the business.
Colin Mills E-mail cmills9@blueyonder.co.uk


LODGE ROAD 05/05/07    A Walk down the length of Lodge Road

Lodge Road from Bannister & Thatcher chemists,  traveling down hill, notable land marks, first Dr,McKinnon, Mr.Lewis corner shop with Victor Road,call in for sweets,and a penny pull on the fruit machine,next stop the Rectory with large lawns in front,later to become the home for ex-war surplus materials,the name was Watton & Bussells later,known as Bushells.the next outstanding land mark the GOLDEN EAGLE managed by Mr& Mrs Short, previous of the Rising Sun Talbot Sreet. Next corners of Bacchus Road,Ronnie Swain garage otherside Boot Shoe repair shop.still going down the hill.the steps and the King Arms Pub. the next shop was my favorite,Miss Francis sweet shop,she was a lovely Lady that always gave good measure for your pennies,when sweets were on ration,she would occasional give you some extra. the next shop was a duel premises first a shoe repairs named Phillphs,and the became , Family Butchers Chris Featherstone,next was also a duel shop first a Fish & Chips named Hattons, changed in Fruit & Veg shop called Armstrongs previous,near the FLAT. Then arrive at the double named Public House the WINSON GREEN TAVERN. known local as the: DON :opposite the then famous the All Saints Mental Hospital. On the other corner the Hairdressing Saloon,  first owned by Sunny Walters later Bert the Barber.the Newsagents shop was named broomhead, whose daughter married Stanley Manison,their son attened H.N.R.S at the same period as myself next Barretts Greengrocer & Fruits. The next building,was the most famous for bread this was called MOTHERS PRIDE entrance to their bakery into Talbot St.: story attached to bakery later : continuing down in the dip,builder on corner,next came Allens Shoe Repairs,and the charging of radio acumalators.further along
Mrs Sunny Walters Ladies Hairdressing,now we are on the flat part of Lodge Road. We arrive at the third Pub in the road called the DEVONSHIRE ARMS situated between Musgrave Rd and Devonshire Street.the next shop was a family from Talbot St.named Mr&Mrs Manley Greengrocers as every were in the area came the Fish & Chip shop called Coopers,followed by Grocer Shop called Luckings he sold broken biscuits to us children 2d a bag.
Up hill, May Westwood the newsagents shop very tall lady about 6.2 then the corner of Lodge rd / Lees st. the animal pet,and corn shop,named Morris.later Guest & Sons transport carriers of HEINZ 57.brookfield road.
the opposite side the Congreational church,calledthe Institute,carrying high up hill the outdoor licence premises at the corner Norton sreet. The next was a private house/come Doctors. Now we are approaching the working area of the road.Walsh & Walsh. manufactures of fine Crystal glass,and Griffiths pattern and design. This site taken over by the FORD MOTOR COMPANY of America for the secret development of their first diesel engine into a vehicle called the ThamesTrader.they came to midlands for the technology and expertise of the British motor industry.next the Canal that played a part of Birmingham water ways,followed by Timber Merchant Tingates,and oppsite the British Oxygen Company. Going down hill towards the area known as the Flat.passing Scribbons Bakery on the way down we arrived at another section of further history.
The old saying keep browesing,and keep writing
Magnificent Web site thanks Ted.
Colin Mills E-mail cmills9@blueyonder.co.uk

LODGE ROAD 11/08/07
In early years of youth,the younger generation joined rival organizations Boys Brigade,Scouts, Church Army Brigade. I at the age of 12years enlisted in the 14,th Boys Brigade at the Intstitute Lodge Road the Captain
Mr Cane,1st Officer Mr Williams,Sgts Alan Boswell Alan Lewiss, these dedicate personnal helped to mould our personality and future.
One summer the 14th Company departed for 2weeks Holiday Camping Excise to Blackwell Cottage on the River Severn at Arley.Nr Bridgenorth. Having set up the tents,and having a meal,army style,we all explored the local country side, night time arrived time for bed,some slept others laughing and joking about,and suddenly we heard a terrific splash in the river,we jumped up and looked to see where the noise had come from and then we observed a lad name Tommy Hayes had sleept walk into the river,we retrived out and all had a good laugh.
Regards Colin Mills E-mail cmills9@blueyonder.co.uk

LODGE ROAD 06/08/03

On the bridge between All Saints Road and Paxton Road Year 1900?? Any one know what this procession was about??                               Another Mac Joseph  Photo

No 32 tram in Lodge Road Hockley after having just left Winson Green, about to turn right into All Saints Street Brookfields with Goode Street Hockley and Scribbans's Bakery on left and "The Flat "shopping area straight ahead .

LODGE ROAD (Walsh Walsh) 21/02/05

Thanks to John Houghton
www.astonbrook-through-astonmanor.co.uk     for all the "Walsh Walsh" material

LODGE ROAD 21/03/07
Can anyone remember Taylor family,149 Lodge Rd or Reynolds family,154 Lodge Rd.
would love to hear.Val Email: Reynolds292@aol.com

LODGE ROAD 26/02/07
My grandfather, Thomas Philpotts ran pub called the Winson Green Tavern in Lodge Rd, Winson Green. I would love to come back to this website and know it still exists, if not what happen to it.
Tracy Simmons  Email: tsimmons@ringway.co.uk

LODGE ROAD 29/04/06
Up until 1964 the Joesbury's lived at 197 Lodge Road Albert& Ginny(Joan) With 6 children Brian,John,George,(me)eric,joan,(my sister)and Peter. This site has pulled at the memory strings keep up the good work. I remember being in the b'ham mail in the early 50's for playing snowballs in the hot summer. My father had come back from scotland in his truck and picked up a teachest full of snow what fun was had.
George Joesbury  
Letter to George Josebery from Colin Mills 17/09/07
(you gave us an incorrect email address so Colin was unable to contact you in the normall way, Ted).
Albert, your father (better know as jazz band) was a friend of our family, my brothers and local lads formed a musical band,your father being not a instrumentalist became the manager and the band was named Jazzer & the Jazzmen,that how he recivied his nickname.
Now the story begins,your father was a decorater and he could paperhang a ceiling in 1/2 hour using only household broom.having completing that he would say I am just poping home to see if the children were ok,he never came back,you lads must have played him up. I used to go out with your dad on his jobs,I was
only aged 9years old,and my job was to paste the paper and hand to him,I was amazed when he tore
the paper when hanging and I asked why do that and the answer,never cut a straight line,its
hard to match.Transport in those days was a hand cart,that I helped to push.
Your dad was a great romancer when visting our house,he would talk to my dad about his transport company
and my dad would ask him for a job, and his reply have no vacanies a the moment, I waiting for a new fleet of lorrys to be deliverd At some time later I believe he work for his brother,visting Fairs around the country and supply them with toys. I belive he had a younger brother a decorater the word breeze in your heading,anything connected to dennis breeze. Regards Colin mills. Colin Mills E-mail cmills9@blueyonder.co.uk

LODGE ROAD 11/03/04
I am researching the Elliott family who lived at 355 Lodge Road in 1891.Kingswood Lapworth and Hockley are the areas I have. John Henry a signalman died 1909 and his wife Sarah Ann a midwife died 1903. Just wondered if you could help point me in the right direction to get more information on this family.
June  Email: wigginsjune@hotmail.com

LODGE ROAD 16/01/04
Comments: Thank you for such wonderful memories on Winson Green
Does any one remember my late husband John Bridges of.329.Lodge.Rd
Email: jebednatiscalico. uk Edna. Bridges

LODGE ROAD
Do you have anything on the Ford Motor Company's facility that was in Lodge Road until around the early sixties?  I would appreciate any help.
Barry Walker   Email:??????????????????   (CAN YOU HELP BARRY ? IF SO CAN WE HAVE A COPY PLEASE)
Barry must have changed his email address, please see below a reply from Ron Davies. 22/12/2011
Barry,
I read with interest your post on the Winson Green site about FMC presence in Birmingham.
I wonder if you have been successful in gathering any information about the Research Centre because I have been trying for some time now.
I was a FMC engineering student in the mid 60’s and came to Birmingham from Essex to finalise my apprenticeship at Lodge Road. Around 1966 I was offered a job as a Research Engineer in the Electronics Lab. I stayed at Lodge Road until Fords built a new Research Centre at Dunton in Essex when I moved back to where I originated. But did I miss Birmingham! Many of the Engineers relocated to Essex but a lot stayed in the Midlands finding employment in other industries. Some of those that relocated found there way back to the Midlands eventually.
I have some very happy memories of my relatively short employment at Lodge Road although things are getting a little hazy now but I would be quite happy to try to dig into the brain cells while I still have some left!
Regards
Ron Davis imnerdavis@aol.com
More from Ron I don’t suppose many people will remember the FMC site which is a pity because it was where the good old Ford Anglia was designed and developed – before my time there though. It was my first car. It cost £460 brand new including the heater which was an optional extra. I was very proud of it. I bought it whilst still a student and it took three years to pay off the loan.
When I first arrived in Birmingham, parts were like a battleground as redevelopment was in full swing but I don’t think that the Winson Green area was affected much at that time. Some of the time I lived off of Five Ways, Hagley Road which is unfortunately completely unrecognisable to me now.

Lodge Rd  ( Winson Green Tavern )  I would love to come back to this website and know it still exists, if not what happen to it. Tracy Simmons  Email: tsimmons@ringway.co.uk

With reference to Tracy Simmons enquiry about The Winson Green Tavern, I think this was the pub on the corner of Don Street and Lodge Road. I lived 3 doors up from the pub from 1945-1958 and it was always known as The Don, but I don't think that was its official name. Since it's so long ago I would like someone to confirm my recollections. My Grandmother, Ada Holloway, regularly used the pub and I recall her hiring a Midland Red coach to take us on a ' mystery tour ' from The Don. The mystery place turned out to be Evesham. One evening I had to collect my dog ' Prince ' from outside the pub to stop him howling since he was acting as the accompaniment to a mouth organ player.
I think the premises must be demolished by now.
Happy days James Holloway
KELLY'S Directory 1960 names the pub on the corner of Lodge Road and Don Street as the
 "Winson Green Tavern" Ted Rudge 28/02/07

Lodge Road 03/04/07

                          LODGE ROAD TOWARDS HOCKLEY

     The photograph looking down Lodge Road is very evocative for me since the photographer is standing outside the house where i was born in 1945 and still living there when it was taken. It's surprising that an ordinary photograph of a very small part of Winson Green can provoke such detailed memories and feelings.
      I've estimated the date as 1952/53 based on the fact that the trams stopped running on 30/3/1947 but the tramway was left in situ several years after the cessation of services. I can remember the noise from the pneumatic drills as the old steel tracks were recovered for scrap. I can't recall whether the sets of cobble stones the tracks were laid in were taken up or not but the ragged edged partial re-surfacing of the centre of the road was to cover the work done. I hoped a steam driven roller would be used but it turned out to be diesel engined. The lack of traffic suggests it is the early 1950's, if you add 5 years on you would certainly have seen some cars in the road by then.
     The first shop you see is the greengrocers run by an elderly couple named Armstrong. Their name has been painted on the window by a sign writer between the word fruiterer and the advert for Benedicts peas. Below the window it shows that Slim Whitman is appearing at the Hippodrome.
     The Don is next, with the sign on the first floor showing that it is an Ansells house called the Winson Green Tavern. There is another entrance on corner with Don Street and an outdoor around the corner.
     The shop with the woman walking past is 'Bert ' the barbers, I believe this was a nickname since I think his surname was Burton. I had my first professional haircut there and remember being scared of being in such an unknown environment. I was about 3 three years old at the time. Lacking in height because of my age I had to sit on a wooden plank which rested on the arms of the chair.
     Next but one to the barbers is a newsagents run by the Manisons with the usual enamel signs for St. Julien pipe tobacco, Players Weight and Capstan cigarettes
adorning the front. I remember their son, who was some years older than me, riding his bycycle too fast on the bend outside our house then falling off injuring himself on the loose gravel. My dad gave him first aid in our house since he was in the St. Johns Ambulance working from railway locomotive depot at Tyseley.
     You can see that the road is still lit by gas light,  the lamposts being cleaned and maintained by a man carrying his ladder and tools along the road when necessary. The lamposts had automatic timers which switched them on and off each day.
     Out of shot is my house no. 204 which lay between 2 other shops not in the photograph. The shop between my house and the greengrocers is a butchers which was run by Chris Featherstone and as is usual for that trade had plenty to say to the housewives who were his customers. On the other side of my house is a confectioners run by Miss Francis who in the parlance of the day was a maiden lady and resided in Wattville Road, Handsworth. She kept an amazing display of English flowers during the summer in her back garden. After her retirement a family called Smith took over for a short time, all that I can remember about them is a whole display of fireworks accidentally and simultaneously exploding in the garden one bonfire

James Holloway  Email; james@gwr4111.freeserve.co.uk

09/05/07
Having read your tex regarding your grandmother, she lived in the houses between the garage corner
bacchus road and the golden eagle pub,the tennants were name Short. you stated that you lived in house three doors from the Don.the shop next to the pub was a greencrocer named armsrongs,next shop butcher Chris Featherstone.then we come to your Cottage,where I belive John lived,the other son married Edna Savery,who was a great friend of my sister, her mother was also my mothers best friend. next to where you lived was Miss Francis sweet shop always looking in the shop window to see the sweets afford to buy, a lovely lady and allways kind to us children. Then we came to the Saverys Family two big steps to enter their home. from there on everthing up hill,short cut toBacchus road, I also Ada was memeber of some service. being born in Don Street could write a book of the area. hope that enlightens you of the Holloways true Brummie and proud to be called one/
Colin mills
Chelmsley Wood

LODGE ROAD  03/10/04

Can anyone help with pic's of Lodge Road, I used to live at 197 in 1964 to 1971

 then 90 Lodge Road 1971 to 2 facing the british oxygen.

195 lodge rd lived elsie west and nellie fisher,

196 leonard davis,197 the cotons,198 ada manison, 199,leonard and doris walton.200 elsie spinks,201 william and laura bayliss,202 ernest, nellie and eric dalton.

im sure that the papershop was called daltons, in don st i remember living at no 24 were the mills , fred.georgina,frank,collin and joan.At no 22 lived May Cartwright, also can anyone help with pics of devonshire st grandparents lived at no 40 lionel and leah coton, sons george, arthur,john,dennis and david ,lionel and leah also lived at 142 devonshire st in 1927.he was a coleman apparently killed a child by accident the child climbed on the back of his cart slipped off an/d went under the wheels, so the story goes.they also had a fruit /shop in devonshire st . can any one fill in any gaps any stories or pic's of these places. i went to benson rd sch;1964 i remembeer a strict teacher i think her name was mrs.mullard also a mate at the time was trevor green who lived in don st.there was a micheal sheppard and his brother at the school can anyone remember the boy who drowned in winson green lake,1964 to perhaps 69 i think his name was lesley . also a lesley cole used to live at the top end of lodge rd . my father arthur coton attended benson rd sch; and so did his brothers john,george,dennis and david they also attended handsworth new road does any one remember them.any pic's would be appreciated.

malcolm coton  email: phatmaximus@hotmail.com

LODGE ROAD
My grandparents ran the fish and chip shop in Lodge Road, near the Devon Pub (Devonshire Arms), their names were Lottie and George Cooper, Gran ran the shop after my Grandad died in 1963 for a little while longer, I think I have a photo of the shop front, I will look for it and pass it on. P.I.Stewart  03/11/02

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