NORMAN STREET 04/04/2016  Hi, looking for Brenda Crosby who lived with her mum in Aberdeen St. We were friends when I lived at The Cottage of Content in Norman St between 1968 and 1973    Thanks Moira

NORMAN STREET 09/11/2015 I was born at Summerfield Hospital now known as City hospital I lived at 35 Norman Street until I was 9 or 10 I can remember Mr Mrs Brooke's they had a son and daughter can't remember the sons name but I can remember Susan also names that come to mind Jones and Veals also I remember the little shop in Carlisle Street the son was named Robert there was only Robert and his mom they worked the shop together he was still at school but helped out . My time in Norman Street was not always easy but I do remember the people would always look out for you and on bonfire nights we would all put our potatoes and veg in the fire and have a great time it was one of those nights everyone was out to have a great time.  Linda Wood

NORMAN STREET 31/01/2014
I am looking into my family history and have found that my Great Grandfather and his family lived at 33 Norman Street in 1911.
He was a serving Policeman at that time working in C Division from 1896 to 1921.
His name was Thomas Frederick Goodman. His daughter, my Grandmother, was Ida Mary Elizabeth Goodman born in BIrmingham in 1907. I recently visited Norman Street but it now appears only to be an access road for a new residential estate.
Any information or photos that you may be able to let me have of Norman Street in general and number 33 in particular, would be very helpful.    Regards Ian Jones

NORMAN STREET  05/03/2011

Oldish photos of Winson Green Road taken from Norman Street. The Smiths Arms was taken from No 4 Norman Street by John Holmes in the early 1960s. The last one taken in 1964 out side my old house.The two girls are my nieces. Hope this is of some interest
Bernrad Evans

NORMAN STREET 31/10/2010    This drawing of the Winson Green end of Norman Street is the work of Eddie Wilson who lived up the terrace.

Eddie's friend, who sent the drawing to the web site, is Dennis Evans who lived in the house next to Jack Burnett's the hairdressing salon between 1929 and 1952.  An other photograph Dennis sent us is on the schools page under Foundry Road School  it is of the class of 1937/8.   Dennis Evans -

Only recently aware of your website having been sent your book Winson Green and Brookfields as a present, but think it is lovely bringing back memories.
My name is Dennis Evans and I was born at 8 Norman Street, Winson Green, in 1929 and lived in that house until 1952 when I married. I would really love to know if anyone could give me any information about Betty Evans (no relation) from Wellington Street, she had a sister, Minnie, and a brother, Arthur.
Also does anyone know the present whereabouts of my cousin - Joyce Valerie Parry (nee Smith) who was born and lived in Blackford Street, Winson Green from 1934 until about 1952.
I have been able to find the rest of our cousins, but not Joyce, so it would be lovely to find her.
Dennis Evans -

Can anyone help me please.
I’m seeking information about the family  McAllister – Robert Weir McAllister (my grandfather) married Lily Cutler  in 1944. Marriage certificate states he was living on Norman Street at the time. He was a jeweller, presumably up the road at the Jewellery Quarter. His father was Duncan McAllister, who was a furnaceman, and unfortunately that’s all the information I have on this side, any help from anyone who knew of this family would be really appreciated. With kind regards Fiona Harris

Nice to see a mention of Norman St, but one of your correspondents stated The Cottage of Content was an M & B pub (see 14/02/03 entry). I lived in The Cottage from 1968 to 1973 and it was definitely Ansells! My dad was the manager Arthur Taylor and had always worked for Ansells, usually in Aston pubs.Does anyone remember Tony State and his mum Dora? Moira Taylor   EMAIL ADDRES not supplied
06/09/09 As there is no contact address Bernard could not send the email below to Moira.
[ I have read the page regarding Moira Taylor she asked if anyone remembers Tony State and his mom Dora. Tony and I were friends when young, he  had a brother named Jack who was a keen fisherman. Dora passed away leaving Tony & Jack at the same house Bernard Evans ]

This is a great site to find out about old Winson Green, I am looking for any information/ photo's of Norman Street (where I was born in 1955) and of Peel Street where we moved to in around 1960 ish, me dad used to drink in the Sir Robert Peel which was directly over the road from our house, and we used to know a Mrs Tonks who used to keep a little shop, I lived in Norman and Peel Street with Dad and Mom Charles and Joan Giles and the clan, Charles, Robert, Carol, Lynn and Tony hope someone can help, as I am trying to include any info in me family history book.
Many thanks Patricia Sharratt (Nee Giles) Email:

This is a long shot but worth a try!
I,m trying to trace my Grandfather or relatives,his name was Thomas Henry Hanson, who was a butcher by trade, and lived around 1910 onwards at 42 Norman Street , possibly working in a local butchers shop (Tays?).  Little is known about him, he does not appear in the 1881or 1901 census, exept he married in 1903.and appeared in 1924at a the wedding of his daughter.Thanks for any help you may be able to offer .B.G.Dalton South

I was born in Norman Street 11/63, then moved to Carlisle Street. I would be interested in writing something towards this site and will try and sort out some photo's. My mother, Ivy Dagless, was the projectionist at Winson Green Cinema. Thanks for a great site. Linda Richardson (nee Dagless)

NORMAN STREET  14/02/03. As it was 2003. You can quite clearly see some of the houses with there front doors straight on to the street. Just passed the parked car where the tree is sticking out was our house. At the bottom of the street is Dudley Road Hospital with a brick wall built to replace wooden gates.


I was born in Ladywood but we moved to Norman Street next to the M&B's Cottage Pub in about1944  (Dad wouldn't drink Ansell's) . When I was about three, my father George Butler worked in the Foundry at the Birmid in Smethwick, in those days the men walked to work a) there was no buses and b) you couldn't afford the fare if there was one, so you tried to get as close to your works as you could but you had to bear in mind the rent, and the pub was a bonus to dad, and that's not being disrespectful you will know that if you've worked in a foundry. Mom had two children myself age  4 years old and my sister 18 months older, not only did mom manager the house and children and the finances she worked as a press operator, that is on a hand machine throwing a big lever with a big heavy ball on it to press metal work out this was piece work so you worked hard to earn the pennies. Mom and dad were not unique, that was the way of life for all the families in that area and Smethwick. Our house was on the front of a back to back house. You came directly off the street into the one room down stairs which had a coal fire and a table with four chairs and perhaps one arm chair for your dad, (don't be court in it if he came in it was his chair), this led to a cellar head that had an old brown sink on it, no running water, or drainage, below the sink you had a slop bucket (were waste water went in) you would either tip this in the road when no one was looking or take it to the outside drain up a yard three doors away, you would also get your clean drinking water from the same yard in a very clean bucket you kept for this purpose. Also up this yard was the toilet block you used as there was no toilet in the house you shared this with the people who were joined to you on the back of the property, and the toilet paper consisted of newspaper. Again up the yard was a brew house were you washed the clothes on the day you were allocated, you hadn't better use someone else day you would soon know about it, the brew house had a coal fire and a boiler with and old fashioned mangle. Upstairs of the house was the main bedroom for mom and dad and above that was an attic for my sister and myself with a skylight in the roof, no heating what so ever in the bedrooms.

More than once I went to school with cardboard in my shoes to cover up the holes in the soles, and patches on the seat of my short trousers.  I remember my Uncle Jack who was a plumber putting water and drainage in those properties, we did feel posh.
Money was tight many a time mom would be out when the rent man came i.e. hiding in the house, she used to make toffee apples to sell at the door, she would give us one to go outside to eat to get the other kids interested to go and buy one off her, in those days husbands gave their wife's a certain amount of money and they would have to manage. Mom would use a flit spray and D.D.T., which is banned to fumigate the house for bugs, those old houses encouraged them. For a bath we used to go to the Municipal Baths in Bacchus Road, I hated the man who filled the bath up he would put the hot water in take away the tap and as he was leaving he would start shouting at you to get out quickly and don't leave a mess.
Do you think it was hard? - "we knew no better"- there was always food on the table and we had good Christmas's making the decorations ourselves out of crepe paper and flour made up as glue, dad would make lead soldiers on the open fire using a small ladle and moulds and sell them-we were happy like most of the kids in Winson Green. Alan Butler